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Brentford Families - RyanPaul Smith wrote about his family lines who settled in Brentford in the late 1800s from Ireland, including Ryan, Manning and Callow.
In October 2017 Tess added her family memories of 'Con Ryan'.
RyanMy great grandfather Cornelius RYAN born around 1862, son of Daniel Ryan and Mary Sullivan, in Ballydesmond in Kerry. Cornelius RYAN lodged here at 376 High Street for a brief period before marrying Kate AHERNE who lodged with friends/relatives ? in Distillery road.
Cornelius and Kate married at St Johns RC church Brentford in 1892 and moved to 7 Baileys Row where they had 6 children of whom 4 survived, Mary Ellen (1893), Ellen (1898), Margaret (1900) and Daniel (1902).
Paul found three local newspaper articles which provide more information about Cornelius. The Middlesex Chronicle of June 12th 1915 has a Police Court Report:
Cornelius Ryan (62), labourer, of Bailey's road, Walnut Tree-road, Brentford, was charged with being drunk at High-street, Brentford. PC Lemon 287 T stated that as 11.15 on Friday night he was on duty at Brentford Police Station and heard a man shouting outside. On going out he saw Ryan lying on the footpath helplessly drunk. His face was covered with congealed blood, and Dr Bott was called to attend to his wound. Ryan pleaded guilty and was fined 5s plus the doctor's fees.
Cornelius lived another 27 years.
The Middlesex Chronicle of January 10th 1942 reported his death:
The final article describes Cornelius's funeral:Middlesex Independent & West London Star of January 17 1942
A photo of Cornelius Ryan appeared in a newspaper (or magazine): can you help identify possible title / date?
Footnote from Tess about Con RyanI believe that as a child my mother knew Paul Smith's great grandfather CORNELIUS RYAN. She was born Florence "Floss" Gregge in 1920 and in her early years lived with her parents Fred and Liz Gregge and her younger sister Dorothy in a place she called The Barracks - small poor standard housing behind what is now a block of flats on Ealing Road near Albany Road. She remembered it as a poor but happy time especially Saturday evenings, when the neighbours would gather in one of the houses and sing songs and play musical instruments. She always remembered who she described as "a little old Irishman called Con Ryan" who played his violin for them. Later in her childhood they moved to a council house in Lionel Road and then to Chestnut Avenue. She always wondered who Con Ryan was and where he came from. She died in 2006 but to the end of her life she remembered those happy Saturday nights and always mentioned Con Ryan playing his violin.
The children of Cornelius and Kate Ryan
The photo shows William Manning in WW1 uniform.
William and Mary Ellen MANNING had two children, John and Kathleen. William MANNING later died and in 1936 Mary Ellen married Edwin J JONES (son of Rowland E JONES and Alice, born 1897) from 20 Walnut Tree. There were no children from Mary Ellen's second marriage.
[The painting by Paul Ryan's great uncle William WHEELER shows 'The Bull'. Paul adds 'Great uncle Bill lived in Hanwell before he married my great aunt from Baileys Row so it may be a Bull up there'. If you can identify the location please get in touch. Paul notes that Baileys Row was near the Brentford 'Bull'. The painting may have been from memory? ]
Daniel RYAN (1902-1978) married Louisa Lucy SLATER (1903-1964, daughter of Albert SLATER and Charlotte nee SOLEY) in 1926. They had three children: Terry, Rosaleen C (1926) and Daniel J (1933).
The question is the list of names at 376 which was a coal yard by the look of the 1881 census were all Irish lodgers AND they were all gardeners of some kind. I wonder if they all worked at the same place and could it be Kew as it's a walk away. [The 1881 census describes the lodgers as 'labourers'; in 1891 as 'agricultural labourers': a labourer could have worked on new buildings; an agricultural labourer may have worked at a local market garden].
Cornelius RYAN (great grandfather) who died 1/1/1942 at West Middlesex Hospital has his address at the time at 47 High Street Brentford. Also his occupation was a retired stoker at the Met Water Board. His wife Kate RYAN died in 1950.
William MANNING (grandfather) who died 27/12/1926 at WMH has an occupation of stoker at Gas works.
It's worth mentioning that the death certificate states 30 Twickenham road rather than the hospital (common practice for a while)
The big mystery for for me is grandad William MANNING. apart from his marriage in 1919 to Mary Ellen RYAN he was in the Middlesex Regiment g/6361 but there is nothing else apart from the "manning" photo. It looks like his father on the right and his grandfather on the left with brothers and uncle perhaps. The photo maybe 1910 ish, and it looks like the grandfather is irish. Anyway feel free to add anything you like to your site and I hope someone out there can help in the gardeners question.
CallowAlbert CALLOW b1870 married Ellen HESTER b 1873 on 14th Dec 1895, at St Paul, Old Brentford. They gave their address at the time as 268 High street and Albert's occupation was 'carman' or 'carrier' (unclear). One of the witnesses was a Harriet HOWLAND who is mentioned on the web site. Albert gave his father's name as Henry CALLOW, occupation: carpenter. William CALLOW was the other witness.
Albert and Ellen CALLOW had 6 children and according to various documents didn't seem to stay in the same place for more than five minutes [at the time most people rented property]:
1901 census address is 3 Distillery road
1911 census address is 39 Walnut tree road.
Page published August 2010; last updated October 2017