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Brentford Families - Clements
Rebecca Norris writesMy father was originally from Brentford, his name is Rob Norris. He lived in George Road which I am led to believe does not exist anymore. His fathers name was Charles William Norris and mothers name was Mary Helen Clements... My father tells me of Clitheroe House which was renamed Sidney House after Sidney Clements, James Clements son who was killed the first world war. This has now been demolished I have been told. I also know that James Clements was the Charter Mayor of Brentford and Chiswick.
Clements references on the High Street from censuses and trade directories
James Clements - mystery of his birthThe following speculative tree has been compiled using census returns, FreeBMD and James Clements' obituary in the 'Middlesex Independent' December 29 1934.
James's obituary gives his birth date as February 1862 and his place of birth as Orchard Road, Brentford. His birth should therefore have been registered in Brentford in either the January - March quarter or the following April - June quarter, 1862. His obituary also mentions his father dying as James was born: so the death of a male Clements is expected in the same quarter as James's birth.
There is no birth or death registration of a male Clements in the first two quarters of 1862. However Roger Davis has spotted entries in the October-December quarter of 1862: a birth (Volume 3a page 50) and a death (Vol 3a page 67) of a James Clements in Brentford registration district (ancestry.co.uk). James Clements was buried in the recently opened South Ealing Cemetery on December 21st, aged 23, of Old Brentford, indicating he was born around 1839 (ancestry.co.uk parish register search).
James's half-brother Mr H Payne attended James's funeral, according to the obituary. A Henry T Payne was a tug captain in 1901, aged 29. In 1881 a 9 year old Henry Payne was living with his parents John & Ellen Payne, on the Half Acre. John Payne was a lighterman. A 10 year old daughter Ellen Payne recorded in 1881 is presumably the sister-in-law living in James Clements household, aged 21, in the 1891 census.
So James's father remains a mystery - for the time being. Since writing this new information has come to light, see below.
James's mother is also difficult to pin down. James's obituary suggests his mother was alive when James was 9, both being employed at Penningtons. However there are no obvious Jamess living in Brentford in 1871 that match. His mother may have remarried by 1871 and James may be recorded in the census under his step father's surname.Top
James Clements - mystery of his birth - solvedIn October 2011 Bob Sheridan wrote:
'James Clements, father James Clements a general dealer, married Ellen Cornish, father Edward Cornish a boot closer, at All Saints, Poplar 8th December 1861. Both resident Market Street. Ellen was widowed by 1865 when she married John Abraham Payne, father Abraham Payne, at St. Mary, Lambeth on 2nd April 1865. John was resident at 8 Miller's Lane. The names and dates fit and it may be worth some further research ...'.
The 1861 marriage entry was witnessed by W Mattocks and Sarah Mattocks; James Clements, the groom, was a waterman. All parties signed the register. The name Maddox appears in the family notes that follow, an example of how surname spelling can change.
Clements family tree
James Clements ( 18?? - 1861/5): son of James Clements, general dealer; waterman in 1861; married Ellen Cornish at All Saints, Poplar in 1861; only one known child:
Jones/Maddox family treeJoseph Maddox (ca 1810/4 - 1878): born Isleworth; living on Back Lane in 1851, a coal labourer; living with him was Sarah Jones, his housekeeper who was 17 years his junior; still on Back Lane in 1861 (ag lab) & 1871 (labourer); Sarah was recorded as a widow in 1881 and the three children still at home had the surname Jones; Sarah appears as Sarah Maddox in 1891 with her son William D and granddaughter May Clements, age 2
Published March 2008; last updated November 2011